Menus Personally, I like the Al Mar / Spyderco back lock, though I also enjoy BM Axis locks or Spyderco Compression locks. The one that gets the most grief is Spyderco's Caged Ball Bearing Lock system. Otherwise, they use different locking devices, be it a ball bearing, a steel bolt parallel to the blade or a pin perpendicular to the tang (axis). You don't cut with the lock. Less impacted by debris in suboptimal conditions. Since I haven't done a long term assemsent on the CBBL (i.e. 2 1/4" plain edge lc200n blade. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube CHRIS REEVE INTEGRAL LOCK (R.I.L.) Benchmade have their Axis-Lock. Re: Spyderco's Caged Ball Bearing Lock, compared to: AXIS Lock, Bolt Lock? The omega springs are very light in their pressure. Cory Wallskog. I've decided I want a Sage, but i'm not sure which one I want to get. I like the axis but a grain of sand can jam it to me a that's a failure. The hardened ball bearing, which is the main element, is allowed to rotate freely throughout its travel. I'm not a huge fan of framelocks or liner locks, as I'm a lefty and can't use those as easily. To the axis lock? The cage can break in some cases, and the pin which sticks out of the cage to go inside the spring can break if you try to take the knife apart. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube The ball bearing lock has better overall security IMO. Stick them in the same design and the difference should be negligible. Mainly because it uses a ball bearing and a spring. It's been almost a year with my well-loved manix. Spyderco manix 2 design. As Spyderco illustrates, it “consists of a ball bearing … EDC pocket dump #4 (knives, tools, gears, gadgets, watches etc.) CBBL is overly stiff, prone to losing parts during disassembly (the ball bearing itself), and on the Manix series at least the caps for your finger/thumb are much shittier feeling on your finger than the steel crowns on Axis locks. Both require their locking mechanism to break either the handle or the blade to disengage unintentionally (I use this like I do with guns. The Caged Ball Lock was developed for the P'Kal, a knife purpose-built as a weapon and heavily tested as a self-defense knife. The ball bearing lock is pretty much an axis lock of Benchmade but is a bit stiffer. BACK LOCK A locking system positioned on the back of the handle that uses a rocker arm that pivots in the center. The spyderco ball lock was pretty stiff and I wasn’t comfortable using it one handed. BALL BEARING LOCK A patented compressive lock that wedges a ball bearing between a fixed anvil and the blade tang. The ball bearing lock has better overall security IMO. I could stick yo face in some dough and make some gorilla cookies.”. I close it like my axis lock knives and it works just fine. the marlin spike locks with a ball bearing lock… But the axis and ball bearing are functionally similar. IMO it's not even close, and I love Spyderco as a company. 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The ball bearing lock is tres smooth. Both offer very high amounts of strength in a small light weight package. The axis is a lot easier to use but has more components that could break but the cbbl seems a lot stronger to me but that's just my opinion. Both are very sturdy and can be one handed closing with some practice Opening: Both have a thumb hole opening which allows for quick opening. Check out the greatest crossbar-locking knives that you can get your hands on right now. I have several Benchmades with the Axis lock and I was wondering how the Spyderco ball bearing lock compares. The results revealed a tight 3 way race between Benchmade‘s AXIS Lock, the Liner Lock, and the Frame Lock, ... Love the ball bearing lock on my spyderco manix. They look like they are similar. Original Axis lock patent number I believe was this one: Distinguished ambassador of the American knife and tool Institute. When the blade is open the ball bearing rides into a detent in the blade positively locking the blade open. I also Believe Spyderco won't send a replacement polymer cage either. One thing that is nice about both locks is that they are ambidextrous and open easily with either hand. (I am not being facetious, that is about as far as the similarities go.). I have always been a fan of the Yojimbo 2 but have been wary of the delicate tip. It locks with a spring that pushes a contained ball bearing into a notch in the tang of the blade allowing for an extremely strong lock up. The lock hasn't been around long enough for long-term durability to be truly tested, but the regular Ball Bearing Lock has stood up quite well to hard use on the Dodo and D'Allara models. Even if you didn't mean to you still pulled the trigger. The spring used on a CBBL seems to be very stout. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube Additionally, I think a ball (caged or not) interposing itself between the tang and a stop is more forgiving than something that has to slide into a hole (as I believe the bolt action does). I've never handled a knife with Spyderco's Ball Bearing lock, but I suspect that I would like that style of lock. It has a Wharncliffe shape, a … This is mainly because I don’t like assisted opening pocket knives and most of the knives I’ve used in the past have a similar lock design. Axis locks are easier to unlock, expecially with one hand. Many people with small hands report that they cannot use the lock one-handed. The weak point of the axis lock is the omega springs. An alternative to r/knives. The only exception to this I can think of is if the pivot screw loosens slightly allowing a little bit of play in the mechanism. Spyderco Counterfeits, Clones, Replicas, etc. All things pocket knives. The Ball Bearing Lock consists of a ball bearing encased in a polymer cage that is spring loaded. A lock mechanism that uses a leaf-like spring from a split liner in the handle to wedge laterally between a ramp on the blade tang and the stop pin (or anvil pin). When I got my manix that thing was a bitch to loosen. Ball bearing lock mechanism. Here’s the difference, instead of placing the bar on the handle they’ve put it … Functionally, the Bolt Action Lock on the Sage 3 seems nearly identical to the Benchmade AXIS® lock, SOG, Arc-Lock™, or even the Spyderco Ball Bearing Lock. I think that the CBBL is the smoothest of them all. Portions of the following content are served by a 3rd party. At the same time, don't do pull ups off of your knives with several people hanging on to your legs. Benchmade’s AXIS-Lock may be the poster-boy, but they aren’t the only company making a great Crossbar Lock these days! I know that you are able to close the knife one handed with the ball bearing lock. Easy, smooth, strong. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube Personally, I like the Al Mar / Spyderco back lock, though I also enjoy BM Axis locks or Spyderco Compression locks. The biggest difference that i can see between the CBBL and the axis is that the axis is a bit easier for me to disengage. That seems to be what most users break, but that is usually done in dissasembly. ", If you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all, “I'm callin' you ugly. The weak points in the cbbl is the polymer cage. Since I carry an axis lock knife regularly I can say that they do wear fairly evenly across the locking surface on the blade tang. It has a flat ground blade made from CPM-S30V steel and a black G-10 handle. See I feel that the axis is stronger. If you used any of the others, you’ll be right at home with the Sage 3. Spyderco's version of the Bolt Action lock, with the metal nubs at right angles to the bolt (and scales) gives it an Axis-like feel. ... Review: Spyderco Domino replica with ball bearing pivot system. Some people think the polymer cage feels cheap compared to the metal stud on an axis lock. -Sal, "If you wish to live and thrive, let the spider run alive", "the perfect knife is the one in your hand, you should just learn how to use it. It’s one of the smoothest locking mechanisms you can get for a folding knife because of that ball-bearing, and it’s also an extremely strong system. I have experienced this on my 940. Still, there have been a lot of tests done on the Axis lock and seems plenty strong, for most applications. Making it thicker won't make the knife necessarily stronger, but reinforcing the liners in that area will. In conclusion, the axis lock should provide for a better user experience than a caged ball bearing lock. IDK about the axis lock but the ball bearing lock is self-adjusting, meaning as the ball/tang wear, the ball will just advance slightly while still retaining the strong lockup with no play. The thing needs some getting used to but my CBBL is stiffer than my 531 but really isn't hard to disengage. The axis lock allows you to flick open the mg if you release the lock much easier than the sd4 can Grind style: Hollow grind -mg full flat ground -sd4. Usability is something I can't comment on too much since I own knives with the axis lock and don't with the CBBL (yet). carried the damn thing) I can only assume this stiffness is caused by the smaller area of contact of the ball bearing increasing pressure between contact points which would cause more friction, and also a stiffer spring. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. The Ball Bearing Lock and the evolutionary caged Ball Bearing Lock comprise Spyderco’s attempt to develop a robust lock that meets martial blade craft (MBC) standards without being too bulky or hard to open or close. The action on the knife is smooth but constantly pushing on the tang of the blade much like a backlock. Yep I agree with everything said here, especially that the ball bearing lock is very stiff and harder to disengage. Lock mechanism: axis lock -mg and lockback -sd4. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube All product names, art and text herein are the property of Spyderco, Inc. and may not be reproduced in part or whole without the sole written permission of Spyderco, Inc. Both are good ambidextrous locks and will serve you well. All the locks are similar in that a lever is the mechanism used to release the lock. The BBL/CBBL has a coil spring which offers more resistance when unlocking but feels really solid. This is the last one I am selling so first come first serve. The ball bearing lock has better overall security IMO. Great fit and finish and bearings combined with axis lock is a dream combo. The Spyderco Manix 2 XL has Spyderco’s Ball Bearing lock. They give constant pressure on the blade but nearly as much as the BBL. I'm not a huge fan of framelocks or liner locks, as I'm a lefty and can't use those as easily. Never used bolt action. The main difference, for me, is the BBL is … By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Reply Delete. Personally, I like the Al Mar / Spyderco back lock, though I also enjoy BM Axis locks or Spyderco Compression locks. From SOG to WE Knife, Gerber and more, these knives are fast-opening, safe, and fully ambidextrous to boot. Isti January 2, 2017 at 6:03 AM. Lock up wise I think they are both pretty secure. As others have said the axis lock is a more prone to getting dirt or sand caught up in the locking mechanism and the spring is less robust and seems a little delicate. Spyderco is not liable for the misuse of any Spyderco knife or product purchased either directly from Spyderco or a reseller. The axis lock is a little bit easier to use. Back to the subject on hand, the bar that the axis lock uses contacts a larger area and spreads the force out. Well, thought people at Spyderco, it is time to come up with something more innovative and simple. I have heard of people breaking omega springs in axis locks, but havent seen that in the ball bearing lock. Spyderco's Caged Ball Bearing Lock, compared to: AXIS Lock, Bolt Lock? I've tested fresh out of the box Spydercos and the action was pretty stiff. It is not like the Benchmade axis lock.....same concept, but the Benchmade axis is a lot easier to manipulate one handed than the spyderco ball lock. A lug on one end of the arm engages a notch in the blade’s tang to lock the blade open. Jim Guy. frame lock design for the blade. I'm a hole junkie. S30V steel sharpens really nice and keeps its edge for a good long while with just some stropping. After having taken both apart and inspecting them, I trust the ball bearing lock slightly more. Machines don't care). The axis lock is a … The locking bar is usually fine. Lived up to your flair man; great writeup. However I wouldn't let the difference between these two lock be a major factor in choosing a knife. Luckily there are two of them and the lock only needs one to work. Nothing a little bit practice wouldn't overcome, but I can see where the complaints are coming from. Never tried the ball. Open quick and also slams shut by itself when unlocked. I have a lot more faith in the longevity and strength of the CBBL than the others, although I am indeed also a fan of the AXIS lock. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The omega springs can wear out and break. The Spyderco D'Allara was designed to honor John D'Allara, a NYC police officer and Spyderco enthusiast who died in the line of duty on 9/11. Instead of a linerlock, this knife has a spring type lock that is like an AXIS lock. I don't believe in safe queens, only in pre-need replacements. Of course you shouldn't baton with your folder with the lock engaged, but we've all seen the Crocket20 video he did for Bladehq. November 20, 2015 at 3:53 am I use all of them but the tri-ad lock is the strongest. I'm not a huge fan of framelocks or liner locks, as I'm a lefty and can't use those as easily. It's already been covered, but axis lock > CBBL every day of the week and eleventeen times on Sunday. 4 1/8" closed. Tend to wear faster than a coil spring, and since springs wear while either being compressed or uncompressed that means that the springs wear out in use. 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The way it is done on the 21 is perfect and shouldn't be altered. Replies. The CBBL feels smoother when opening, but disengaging is much stiffer and not as good. BACK LOCK A locking system positioned on the back of the handle that uses a rocker arm that pivots in the center. it is possible for the lock to vibrate open. I'm fairly sure I'll end up with a 1, the carbon fiber is just too pretty, but I'd like to hear some opinions on the bolt action. Ball Bearing Lock (Spyderco) Invented by Sal Glesser and refined by Eric Glesser , the Ball Bearing Lock is a simplified take on the Axis Lock concept. If you watch Benchmades test videos you'll notice that when the lock fails there is severe deformation on the liners. The Paramilitary 2 uses the Compression Lock locking mechanism. Personally, I like the Al Mar / Spyderco back lock, though I also enjoy BM Axis locks or Spyderco Compression locks. It really makes deploying the blade on the Manix 2 smooth, fast, and easy. As a side note, I don't like the ceramic ball that CRK uses for a similar reason, but because of a different result. Easy, smooth, strong. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 2 1/2" marlin spike. and I'll look down, and whisper "No.". http://www.youtube.com/user/mwvanwyk/videos. This Spyderco D'Allara 3 maintains the spirit of the original model with updated style and construction for multi-purpose use. SLIP JOINT A lug on one end of the arm engages a notch in the blade’s tang to lock the blade open. The Manix uses a ball bearing lock which is similar to Benchmade’s Axis lock-in operation. The CJRB 1904R Recoil Lock Crag is just like the original release you know and love with just one huge difference. Similarities: all use a metal part that interfaces on the tang to lock the blade. A lug on one end of the arm engages a notch in the blade’s tang to lock the blade open. How does Spyderco's bolt action lock compare to the ball bearing lock? It has a new locking mechanism. I feel that the ball will wear the tang fast just like a steel tang will wear a titanium lock face with a small contact area like you find on a lot of ti frame locks. Axis all day long. The ball bearing lock on the Manix 2 is similar to Benchmade’s Axis lock. In terms of strength they are theoretically the same. Its broad blade is precision machined from Crucible’s premium CPM ® S30V ® particle metallurgy stainless steel and features a full-flat grind for an exceptional balance of edge geometry and strength. I do find the spring used on the ball bearing lock to be slightly stiff until you break it in. sc-06tip spyderco tusk titanium folder. All 3 are great locks and will handle 99% of what you throw at them. The butt of each blade featuring an AXIS lock (hidden by the handle) has a flat spot that allows a spring-tensioned bar to lock into place when the knife is opened. Knife is kinda heavy for when wearing jogging shorts but perfect when wearing jeans. The locking mechanism is the patented Ball-Bearing lock. Paramilitary 2. The cage makes that slippery ol' ball easier to grip. Here’s how it works: The lock is made up of a spring-tensioned bar that slides back and forth on a track cut into the handles of the knife. FWIW, whether it's Axis or (C)BBL, I eschew thumb-stud knives. The compression lock is one of Spyderco’s best USP’s, offering a unique and convenient safety mechanism for blade retention. November 6, 2020 0 Comments. spyderco compression lock vs ball bearing lock. Secondary header menu area. Both of them are flickable, both of them allow the blade to swing free when disengaged, both of them are pretty reliable, etc. Re: Spyderco's Caged Ball Bearing Lock, compared to: AXIS Lock, Bolt Lock? Locked up fine, but the blade retention was a lot weaker. Both offer very high amounts of strength in a small light weight package. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - SPYDERCO Knives Compression Lock vs Ball Bearing Lock. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I can't imagine someone ever "wearing through" a BBL. Long story short, ball bearing lock is something that works similarly to Axis-Lock but is, mechanically, a completely new type of lock. They are equally as strong as far as 99% of end users are concerned. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. The only CBBLs I've disassembled are the Manix 2s, and they have a single coil spring. The Manix 2 is a dependable, all-purpose folding knife that showcases Spyderco’s Made-in-USA quality and patented Ball Bearing Lock™. The "Spirit" of the design does not come through unless used. I have both and I like the Axis lock but not as much as the CBBL. Also, Benchmade last time I checked won't send replacement omega springs. In conclusion, the axis lock should provide for a better user experience than a caged ball bearing lock. If you cause shock it a part of the knife like this (batoning for example.) Create your secondary header menu in Appearance -> Menus Personally, I like the Al Mar / Spyderco back lock, though I also enjoy BM Axis locks or Spyderco Compression locks. The one that gets the most grief is Spyderco's Caged Ball Bearing Lock system. Otherwise, they use different locking devices, be it a ball bearing, a steel bolt parallel to the blade or a pin perpendicular to the tang (axis). You don't cut with the lock. Less impacted by debris in suboptimal conditions. Since I haven't done a long term assemsent on the CBBL (i.e. 2 1/4" plain edge lc200n blade. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube CHRIS REEVE INTEGRAL LOCK (R.I.L.) Benchmade have their Axis-Lock. Re: Spyderco's Caged Ball Bearing Lock, compared to: AXIS Lock, Bolt Lock? The omega springs are very light in their pressure. Cory Wallskog. I've decided I want a Sage, but i'm not sure which one I want to get. I like the axis but a grain of sand can jam it to me a that's a failure. The hardened ball bearing, which is the main element, is allowed to rotate freely throughout its travel. I'm not a huge fan of framelocks or liner locks, as I'm a lefty and can't use those as easily. To the axis lock? The cage can break in some cases, and the pin which sticks out of the cage to go inside the spring can break if you try to take the knife apart. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube The ball bearing lock has better overall security IMO. Stick them in the same design and the difference should be negligible. Mainly because it uses a ball bearing and a spring. It's been almost a year with my well-loved manix. Spyderco manix 2 design. As Spyderco illustrates, it “consists of a ball bearing … EDC pocket dump #4 (knives, tools, gears, gadgets, watches etc.) CBBL is overly stiff, prone to losing parts during disassembly (the ball bearing itself), and on the Manix series at least the caps for your finger/thumb are much shittier feeling on your finger than the steel crowns on Axis locks. Both require their locking mechanism to break either the handle or the blade to disengage unintentionally (I use this like I do with guns. The Caged Ball Lock was developed for the P'Kal, a knife purpose-built as a weapon and heavily tested as a self-defense knife. The ball bearing lock is pretty much an axis lock of Benchmade but is a bit stiffer. BACK LOCK A locking system positioned on the back of the handle that uses a rocker arm that pivots in the center. The spyderco ball lock was pretty stiff and I wasn’t comfortable using it one handed. BALL BEARING LOCK A patented compressive lock that wedges a ball bearing between a fixed anvil and the blade tang. The ball bearing lock has better overall security IMO. I could stick yo face in some dough and make some gorilla cookies.”. I close it like my axis lock knives and it works just fine. the marlin spike locks with a ball bearing lock… But the axis and ball bearing are functionally similar. IMO it's not even close, and I love Spyderco as a company. 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The ball bearing lock is tres smooth. Both offer very high amounts of strength in a small light weight package. The axis is a lot easier to use but has more components that could break but the cbbl seems a lot stronger to me but that's just my opinion. Both are very sturdy and can be one handed closing with some practice Opening: Both have a thumb hole opening which allows for quick opening. Check out the greatest crossbar-locking knives that you can get your hands on right now. I have several Benchmades with the Axis lock and I was wondering how the Spyderco ball bearing lock compares. The results revealed a tight 3 way race between Benchmade‘s AXIS Lock, the Liner Lock, and the Frame Lock, ... Love the ball bearing lock on my spyderco manix. They look like they are similar. Original Axis lock patent number I believe was this one: Distinguished ambassador of the American knife and tool Institute. When the blade is open the ball bearing rides into a detent in the blade positively locking the blade open. I also Believe Spyderco won't send a replacement polymer cage either. One thing that is nice about both locks is that they are ambidextrous and open easily with either hand. (I am not being facetious, that is about as far as the similarities go.). I have always been a fan of the Yojimbo 2 but have been wary of the delicate tip. It locks with a spring that pushes a contained ball bearing into a notch in the tang of the blade allowing for an extremely strong lock up. The lock hasn't been around long enough for long-term durability to be truly tested, but the regular Ball Bearing Lock has stood up quite well to hard use on the Dodo and D'Allara models. Even if you didn't mean to you still pulled the trigger. The spring used on a CBBL seems to be very stout. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube Additionally, I think a ball (caged or not) interposing itself between the tang and a stop is more forgiving than something that has to slide into a hole (as I believe the bolt action does). I've never handled a knife with Spyderco's Ball Bearing lock, but I suspect that I would like that style of lock. It has a Wharncliffe shape, a … This is mainly because I don’t like assisted opening pocket knives and most of the knives I’ve used in the past have a similar lock design. Axis locks are easier to unlock, expecially with one hand. Many people with small hands report that they cannot use the lock one-handed. The weak point of the axis lock is the omega springs. An alternative to r/knives. The only exception to this I can think of is if the pivot screw loosens slightly allowing a little bit of play in the mechanism. Spyderco Counterfeits, Clones, Replicas, etc. All things pocket knives. The Ball Bearing Lock consists of a ball bearing encased in a polymer cage that is spring loaded. A lock mechanism that uses a leaf-like spring from a split liner in the handle to wedge laterally between a ramp on the blade tang and the stop pin (or anvil pin). When I got my manix that thing was a bitch to loosen. Ball bearing lock mechanism. Here’s the difference, instead of placing the bar on the handle they’ve put it … Functionally, the Bolt Action Lock on the Sage 3 seems nearly identical to the Benchmade AXIS® lock, SOG, Arc-Lock™, or even the Spyderco Ball Bearing Lock. I think that the CBBL is the smoothest of them all. Portions of the following content are served by a 3rd party. At the same time, don't do pull ups off of your knives with several people hanging on to your legs. Benchmade’s AXIS-Lock may be the poster-boy, but they aren’t the only company making a great Crossbar Lock these days! I know that you are able to close the knife one handed with the ball bearing lock. Easy, smooth, strong. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube Personally, I like the Al Mar / Spyderco back lock, though I also enjoy BM Axis locks or Spyderco Compression locks. The biggest difference that i can see between the CBBL and the axis is that the axis is a bit easier for me to disengage. That seems to be what most users break, but that is usually done in dissasembly. ", If you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all, “I'm callin' you ugly. The weak points in the cbbl is the polymer cage. Since I carry an axis lock knife regularly I can say that they do wear fairly evenly across the locking surface on the blade tang. It has a flat ground blade made from CPM-S30V steel and a black G-10 handle. See I feel that the axis is stronger. If you used any of the others, you’ll be right at home with the Sage 3. Spyderco's version of the Bolt Action lock, with the metal nubs at right angles to the bolt (and scales) gives it an Axis-like feel. ... Review: Spyderco Domino replica with ball bearing pivot system. Some people think the polymer cage feels cheap compared to the metal stud on an axis lock. -Sal, "If you wish to live and thrive, let the spider run alive", "the perfect knife is the one in your hand, you should just learn how to use it. It’s one of the smoothest locking mechanisms you can get for a folding knife because of that ball-bearing, and it’s also an extremely strong system. I have experienced this on my 940. Still, there have been a lot of tests done on the Axis lock and seems plenty strong, for most applications. Making it thicker won't make the knife necessarily stronger, but reinforcing the liners in that area will. In conclusion, the axis lock should provide for a better user experience than a caged ball bearing lock. IDK about the axis lock but the ball bearing lock is self-adjusting, meaning as the ball/tang wear, the ball will just advance slightly while still retaining the strong lockup with no play. The thing needs some getting used to but my CBBL is stiffer than my 531 but really isn't hard to disengage. The axis lock allows you to flick open the mg if you release the lock much easier than the sd4 can Grind style: Hollow grind -mg full flat ground -sd4. Usability is something I can't comment on too much since I own knives with the axis lock and don't with the CBBL (yet). carried the damn thing) I can only assume this stiffness is caused by the smaller area of contact of the ball bearing increasing pressure between contact points which would cause more friction, and also a stiffer spring. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. The Ball Bearing Lock and the evolutionary caged Ball Bearing Lock comprise Spyderco’s attempt to develop a robust lock that meets martial blade craft (MBC) standards without being too bulky or hard to open or close. The action on the knife is smooth but constantly pushing on the tang of the blade much like a backlock. Yep I agree with everything said here, especially that the ball bearing lock is very stiff and harder to disengage. Lock mechanism: axis lock -mg and lockback -sd4. Benchmade axis lock vs Spyderco ball bearing lock - YouTube All product names, art and text herein are the property of Spyderco, Inc. and may not be reproduced in part or whole without the sole written permission of Spyderco, Inc. Both are good ambidextrous locks and will serve you well. All the locks are similar in that a lever is the mechanism used to release the lock. The BBL/CBBL has a coil spring which offers more resistance when unlocking but feels really solid. This is the last one I am selling so first come first serve. The ball bearing lock has better overall security IMO. Great fit and finish and bearings combined with axis lock is a dream combo. The Spyderco Manix 2 XL has Spyderco’s Ball Bearing lock. They give constant pressure on the blade but nearly as much as the BBL. I'm not a huge fan of framelocks or liner locks, as I'm a lefty and can't use those as easily. Never used bolt action. The main difference, for me, is the BBL is … By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Reply Delete. Personally, I like the Al Mar / Spyderco back lock, though I also enjoy BM Axis locks or Spyderco Compression locks. From SOG to WE Knife, Gerber and more, these knives are fast-opening, safe, and fully ambidextrous to boot. Isti January 2, 2017 at 6:03 AM. Lock up wise I think they are both pretty secure. As others have said the axis lock is a more prone to getting dirt or sand caught up in the locking mechanism and the spring is less robust and seems a little delicate. Spyderco is not liable for the misuse of any Spyderco knife or product purchased either directly from Spyderco or a reseller. The axis lock is a little bit easier to use. Back to the subject on hand, the bar that the axis lock uses contacts a larger area and spreads the force out. Well, thought people at Spyderco, it is time to come up with something more innovative and simple. I have heard of people breaking omega springs in axis locks, but havent seen that in the ball bearing lock. Spyderco's Caged Ball Bearing Lock, compared to: AXIS Lock, Bolt Lock? I've tested fresh out of the box Spydercos and the action was pretty stiff. It is not like the Benchmade axis lock.....same concept, but the Benchmade axis is a lot easier to manipulate one handed than the spyderco ball lock. A lug on one end of the arm engages a notch in the blade’s tang to lock the blade open. Jim Guy. frame lock design for the blade. I'm a hole junkie. S30V steel sharpens really nice and keeps its edge for a good long while with just some stropping. After having taken both apart and inspecting them, I trust the ball bearing lock slightly more. Machines don't care). The axis lock is a … The locking bar is usually fine. Lived up to your flair man; great writeup. However I wouldn't let the difference between these two lock be a major factor in choosing a knife. Luckily there are two of them and the lock only needs one to work. Nothing a little bit practice wouldn't overcome, but I can see where the complaints are coming from. Never tried the ball. Open quick and also slams shut by itself when unlocked. I have a lot more faith in the longevity and strength of the CBBL than the others, although I am indeed also a fan of the AXIS lock. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The omega springs can wear out and break. The Spyderco D'Allara was designed to honor John D'Allara, a NYC police officer and Spyderco enthusiast who died in the line of duty on 9/11. Instead of a linerlock, this knife has a spring type lock that is like an AXIS lock. I don't believe in safe queens, only in pre-need replacements. Of course you shouldn't baton with your folder with the lock engaged, but we've all seen the Crocket20 video he did for Bladehq. November 20, 2015 at 3:53 am I use all of them but the tri-ad lock is the strongest. I'm not a huge fan of framelocks or liner locks, as I'm a lefty and can't use those as easily. It's already been covered, but axis lock > CBBL every day of the week and eleventeen times on Sunday. 4 1/8" closed. Tend to wear faster than a coil spring, and since springs wear while either being compressed or uncompressed that means that the springs wear out in use. 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